10 unaccounted for Americans in Israel: John Kirby

10 unaccounted for Americans in Israel: John Kirby

Coordinator for Strategic Communications at the National Security Council John Kirby tells ‘The Story’ that China, Russia, Iran and North Korea present ‘unique’ sets of threats to the U.S. #foxnews

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So it has been said that history moves Slowly and then all at once that is the Scenario that the world might be looking At right now in his Oval Office speech On Thursday night President Biden spoke Of three fronts essentially Iran China And Russia saying that the world is Watching what America does and how we Respond history has taught us that when Terrorists don't pay price for their Terror when dictators don't pay a price For their aggression they cause more Chaos and death and more Destruction they keep going and the cost And the threats to America and the world Keep Rising joining us now John Kirby National Security Council coordinator For strategic Communications John Welcome back thank you very much for Joining us today you know um both Senator McConnell and Congressman Kevin McCarthy referred to what the president Described on Thursday night as the axis Of Evil does the president consider Those three countries to be the new AIS Of evil does he agree I I think the President would uh certainly Characterize multiple countries nation States here who present unique uh and Pernicious threats and challenges to our National security uh certainly North Korea is in that group obviously Russia Uh China certainly presents threats and

Challenges in the Indo Pacific but so Does Iran so I mean I we haven't slapped A name on that group but those four Countries clearly uh present unique Challenges and threats to our ability to Continue to lead uh this uh this Rules-based order that's been in place Since World War II well he has called Them pacing challenge competitor things Along those lines but the way he laid it Out on Thursday night um was stronger Than that so does he does he see these Three countries as enemies to the United States at this point he sees each of Them in in their own way and again I Would make sure we include uh Iran in There as well each of them as Iran Russia and China Iran Russia China North Korea I'm sorry I thought but there's There's really four nation states that Uh that present very unique challenges To uh not only American leadership on The world stage but to uh but to Prosperity and stability and security All around the world and each of them Present their own unique sort of sets uh Of threats for instance Russia obviously Is a a power on the decline but less Dangerous they don't have the capacity Necessarily to change this rules-based Order China on the other hand uh is a is A power very much on the rise and does Have the capacity and capability to Challenge that rules-based order so you

Have to take each one sort of you know Separately but that doesn't mean that uh As he said it doesn't mean that we're Not obviously concerned about looking at Them more you know in a stronger way Than he has characterized them in the Past on Thursday night given everything That has happened you were just asked in The briefing about this um confrontation Between two ships a Chinese ship and a Philippines ship we have video of this Um you weren't aware that this had Happened at the time but there there's Video of it that we're showing right now Um a dangerous situation we've seen These similar situations what is your Take on this John between these two Countries yeah look as a former naval Officer um it it's uh obviously alarming When you see this kind of interaction And you're right when the briefing came I had not been aware of it uh but Clearly is of a piece of the Intimidating coercive aggressive Behavior uh by the pla Navy as well as Their so-called Coast Guard uh in the South China Sea in areas like that to Try to bully neighboring states and to Try to enforce completely false Maritime Claims and it's unacceptable do you Think they're ratcheting it up because Obviously everybody's pretty busy with What's going on in the Middle East now And in Ukraine difficult to say with

This one incident Martha that we're you Know it's the start of some sort of new Trend uh I think it's been obvious that They have over uh recent years uh even Before this Administration took office They've been increasing their bellicose And intimidating coercive behavior in The South China seity well it goes to That issue of these three countries that Are all quite Bell Co uh at the moment Around the world um this is a scoop that Axio had on Thursday and it goes to the Issue of of how many of these Confrontations around the world the United States can be in the lead on We're in the lead in Ukraine in terms of Supplying them what they need now in the Lead in Israel as well in terms of Supplying them and axus reported the Pentagon plans to send Israel tens of Thousands of 155 mm artillery shells That had been destined for Ukraine from Us emergency stocks three Israeli Officials with knowledge of the Situation told axio so we're now pulling From one group that we're supporting in Order to supply another that doesn't Sound like we can do all this at once John well without speaking to the Specific stocks from which all the these Munitions are coming from I think we're Going to be careful on that I would make Two points one with every security Assistance package we provide whether

It's Ukraine or or Israel we also do an Assessment of our own National Security And make sure that we have enough for Our own War plans for our own Operational needs and that process Continues but two make no mistake we Have given a lot off the shelf to Ukraine certainly over the last 18 Months and now you know heading in here With with Israel which is why in the Supplemental request that the president Submitted last week on Friday there's a Signific chunk dedicated specifically to Replenishment of DOD stock piles we Absolutely need that we need Congress to Support us in that in that regard okay Um you know it it's uh a lot of people Are looking at what's going on in the Middle East right now and thinking about These hostages American hostages and Israeli hostages and it it hearkens back To something that we saw in 1979 which Is disturbing uh to remember and it it Raises the question of whether or not We're going to see God forbid John uh See scenes like this again how many US Hostages does do the does Hamas have Right now how many Americans are they Holding I want to be careful with an Exact number because we still have 10 Unaccounted for Americans and we don't Know where they are it's possible that Some of them or all of them could be in The hostage pool but right now Martha I

Would say it's about a it's a it's a Handful and I know that's not a Satisfactory number for for you but it's Really as specific as I can be it's not It's not terribly a lot but of course Every single life matters to President Biden we want to get every single one of Them home we just don't know of the 10 Unaccounted for Americans if some of Them might also let me ask you this you Don't have confirmation that they are Dead do you have proof of Life Confirmation on these 10 people have you Seen images that they're being held uh What is where are we with this no no no Martha believe me if we had proof of Life we wouldn't count them in the 10 There are 10 unaccounted for Americans Uh we don't know whether they're missing And just lost or in a hospital somewhere Whether they are deceased or whether They are being held hostage and we're Trying very hard to get more information About all 10 of them it's a concern to Us as well as to their families but the Truth is the honest truth is that we Don't have perfect information on these 10 so do you I mean do you anticipate a Situation where we see these people Paraded blindfolded the kind of you know I mean obviously they just released two Older women right um they still have a Lot of people so if they sort of you Know lighten up on how many people they

Have to manage um clearly they still Have a lot of Leverage is this why um There's a delay in the ground Invasion And is the United States insisting that That not happen until we get our people Home and also what about the 32 Americans are their bodies going to be Sent home what's happening with that Well there's a lot there let me start With the hostage situation and this Ground incursion as you as you know and We've talked about Martha we're not Dictating terms to uh the Israeli Defense Forces they they should speak to Their operations both present and future I won't do that U we have talked from The very beginning with our Israeli Counterparts um about thinking through The ramifications of their operations Making sure that they're asking Themselves the same kind of questions we Ask ourselves when we conduct operations About what the second and third order Effects might be what the unintended Consequences might be certainly what Effect there might be on on on the Hostages and you're right Martha there Are dozens of hostages not just Americans but from other countries uh in Israel as well and certainly we're all Concerned about their fate I can't speak For what Hamas might or might not do I Can only say that they ought to release Every single one of them today just no

No bones about it just let them go they Have no business holding these people Short of that we're going to work with Our partners in the region as we did on Friday to get those that mother and Daughter out we're going to continue to Work with our partners to see what we Can to get the rest of them out they're Every single life every single one of Them have you heard about any Arrangement that is in the works for 50 Dual Nationals dual citizens I've seen That press reporting Martha but before Coming out here to talk to you I I asked To make sure that I had the latest Information and we can't confirm the the Validity of of those reports or that Offer and I think you know I don't have To tell you this but we got to take Everything Hamas says with a huge grain Of salt when it can't take it at face Value okay I understand you were just Meeting with the vice president um what What's her priority what what is she Speaking about in terms of how she wants To see us handle this situation that is Very sensitive in terms of the Palestinians and the Israelis what is She saying about that today John she she Completely shares President Biden view That we've got to make sure that Israel Has the tools the capabilities to go After these Hamas terrorists that they Know they have our support and they're

Going to continue to get security Assistance which they will she also Believes strongly that it's important That we keep that humanitarian Aid going Into the people of Gaza you know another 20 trucks made it in today Martha we're Hoping that that can continue it's a It's not enough I understand that we all Understand that the vice president Understands that but we got to keep that Flowing and then of course she equally Shares our concerns about these hostages All of them but particularly the Americans that we know that Hamas is Holding and making sure that we're Working with might and Main to get them Out back with their I mean it's Incredible uh how how many of these Hostages are being held very quickly It's our understanding that it uh the That the houti attack on Yemen that our Folks were you know sort of battling That situation for 9 hours there have Also been nine attacks on us bases in Iraq all of this is happening by Irani Proxies um you know is the United States Going to respond to either one of these Situations John I'll tell you what Marthur we're going to do what we need To do to protect and defend our forces Make sure that they uh they have the Force protection measures in place to Protect themselves uh we absolutely Acknowledge and I said it at the

Briefing that these groups are supported By Iran there's no question about that Uh and that we're going to do what we Have to do to protect ourselves now as For a response obviously I won't Telegraph any punches that might or Might not be coming just that as we've Done before if there's going to be a Response it's going to be at a time in a Manner of our choosing we're going to do What we have to do to protect our Interests and that's one of the reasons Why the president directed more military Uh capabilities into the region two Strike groups now one of them going to The Middle East and one of them staying In the Eastern Med as well as additional Air defense systems at the Secretary of Defense deployed or ordered to be Deployed just over the weekend well a Lot on the plate uh at the White House To be sure John Kirby thanks for taking Some time to speak with us today we Always appreciate it thank you John yes Ma'am Good To Be With You hey everyone I'm Emily compano catch me and my Co-host Harris vulner and Kaylee mckin On outnumbered every weekday at 12:00 P.m. Eastern or set your DV are also Don't forget to subscribe to the Fox News YouTube page for daily highlights

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