Former Vice President Mike Pence says the Trump indictment is not equal treatment under the law on ’Your World.’

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THOUGHT OF THIS INDICTMENT. LET’S GO TO ONE THAT MIGHT BE IN THAT SAME CATEGORY. THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, MIKE PENCE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. >> Neil: I KNOW YOU WERE OUTRAGED BY THIS. YOU SAID THIS IS A CRIMINALIZATION OF POLITICIAN IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS A 34-COUNT INDICTMENT? THERE’S MIGHT BE STUFF IN THERE THAT YOU’RE NOT AWARE THAT COULD MAKE THOSE REMARKS LOOK PREMATURE? >> LOOK, NEIL, THE UNPRECEDENTED INDICTMENT OF A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ON A CAMPAIGN FINANCE ISSUE IS OUTRAGEOUS. THE DETAILS THAT WILL FOLLOW WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FACT. I THINK MILLIONS OF AMERICANS LOOKING ON SEE THIS FOR WHAT IT IS. IT’S A POLITICAL PROSECUTION BY A MANHATTAN DA THAT LITERALLY CAMPAIGNED FOR OFFICE ON A PLEDGE TO INDICT THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK CAMPAIGNED FOR OFFICE ON A

PLEDGE TO GO AFTER THAT SAME AMERICAN. THIS IS NOT — THIS IS NOT AN EXPRESSION OF EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW THAT EVERY AMERICAN DESERVES. I THINK THAT’S WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AREN’T HAVING ANY OF IT. LOOK, I KNOW PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF. I’M SURE HE WILL PROSECUTE THIS CASE IN THE COURTROOM AND AS HIS LAWYERS WILL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF THIS TWO TIERED JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT HAS SO MANY AMERICANS LITERALLY QUESTIONING THE FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IN OUR COUNTRY. I THINK IT’S DEEPLY UNFORTUNATE. >> Neil: IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, REPORTS THAT THERE WERE OTHER WOMEN INVOLVED AND THAT THERE WERE OTHER PAYCHECKS INVOLVED AND OTHER PAYMENTS INVOLVED, DOES IT ESCALATE FOR YOU AND TO YOU BEYOND WHAT YOU’RE SAYING NOW, THAT IF YOU HAD ONLY KNOWN THAT, YOU WOULDN’T HAVE TOLD ME WHAT YOU JUST DID? >> WELL, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE’RE GOING OFF A LOT OF SPECULATION HERE ABOUT WHAT THE ACCUSATIONS

ARE. BUT I JUST THINK YOU OUGHT TO CONSIDER THE SOURCE HERE. THAT IS THAT THIS — A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PARTISAN PROSECUTOR WHO INITIALLY PASSED ON BRINGING THESE CHARGES, FEDERAL PROSECUTORS THAT REVIEWED THE SAME FACTS THAT DID PASS ON BRINGING CHARGES. AGAIN, I JUST THINK THIS SMACKS OF THE KIND OF CRIMINALIZATION OF POLITICS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF. WE SENSE IN THIS COUNTRY TODAY UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND RADICAL DEMOCRATS AROUND THE COUNTRY, ONE SET OF STANDARDS FOR CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS, ONE SET OF STANDARDS FOR DEMOCRATS. AS I SAID, I THINK IT ALL IS SETTING IN TO MOTION FORCES THAT WILL BRING ABOUT TREMENDOUS CHANGE COME 2024 ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS, THEY BELIEVE IN EQUAL TREATMENT BEFORE THE LAW. I THINK THEY’RE GOING TO BE ELECTING PEOPLE FROM LOCAL PROSECUTORS OFFICES TO THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND THAT

WILL STAND ON THAT PRINCIPAL OF THE RULE OF LAW. >> Neil: SO I GUESS WHAT CONFUSES SOME PEOPLE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS, THIS IDEA WHEN MANY IN YOUR PARTY RIGHTLY SO AT THE TIME TARGETED BILL CLINTON FOR AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THAT YOU’RE LOOKING THE OTHER WAY WHEN IT INVOLVES SOMETHING LIKE THAT NOW. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT’S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I HAVEN’T HEARD PEOPLE AS I’VE BEEN TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE ON EITHER SIDE, WHETHER IT’S PAST OR PRESENT. I GOT TO TELL YOU, WHEN I’M TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT INFLATION IS AT A 40-YEAR HIGH. GASOLINE PRICES ARE EATING IN THEIR BUDGET. THEY’RE COREYED ABOUT THE CRISIS
AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. NOT ON THE AVALANCHE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, BUT FENTANYL IN OUR CITIES. A MENACING CHINA AND A RAGING WAR. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 1990s WITH A SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES, YOU KNOW, IS A MATTER OF HISTORY. BUT HERE A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ISSUES SURROUNDING CAMPAIGN FINANCE, TO ME, IT DIDN’T EVEN COME CLOSE TO RISING TO THE LEVEL OF THE FIRST INDICTMENT EVER OF A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL SEE IT NO OTHER WAY. >> Neil: WELL, MANY IN YOUR PARTY DO AGREE AND IN FACT I WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ALVIN BRAGG AND WHAT HE DID HERE AND WHETHER HE WEAPONIZED HIS OFFICE TO DO WHAT HE’S DONE. TO MAKE THIS MULTI-COUNT INDICTMENT. I’M WONDERING WHETHER YOU THINK THE HOUSE, WHICH NOW WANTS TO TALK TO HIM AND GET HIM TO TESTIFY IS DOING THE SAME THING. WEAPONIZING ITS POWERS TO GET REVENGE. >> LOOK, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I’M SOMEBODY THAT BELIEVES IN FEDERALISM. AS WRONG AS THIS D.A. IS, I HAVE A CHECK IN MY SPIRIT ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECOMING INVOLVED IN WRONG-HEADED LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OR PROSECUTIONS.

I WANT OUR FRIENDS IN THE CONGRESS TO BE JUDICIOUS ABOUT THAT, CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. THEY CAN CERTAINLY ASK QUESTIONS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT THIS IS A MATTER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE THROUGH. THEY SHE THAT POLITICS IS DRIVING THIS DECISION. >> Neil: YOU WOULD BE AGAINST — I’M SORRY. JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU’D BE AGAINST WHAT THEY’RE DOING TO TRY TO BRING HIM TO THE TILL TO TALK ABOUT THIS CASE? YOU DON’T THINK THAT’S A GOOD IDEA? >> I SERVED ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN MY YEARS IN THE CONGRESS IN THE UNITED STATES. CONGRESS HAS EVERY RIGHT TO ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO ASK. I THINK BEGINNING WITH A PREMISE THAT EVEN BAD DECISIONS BY STATED AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ARE STILL AN ELEMENT OF FEDERALISM IN THE COUNTRY. I WANT THEM TO TEMPER THEIR INQUIRIES TO RESPECT FEDERALISM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO SEE THROUGH THIS, NEIL.

I WAS IN IOWA A COUPLE DAYS AGO. EVEN WITH THE SPECTOR OF ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS AND THE PROSPECT OF THIS INDICTMENT HAPPENING, I DID THREE DIFFERENT EVENTS. THIS NEVER CAME UP ONCE. I KNOW IT’S PRESENT COMPANY EXCEPTED BY IT’S AN EXCEPTION FOR MANY IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA. WHERE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE LIVING TODAY IS UNDER THE FAIL POLICIES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. THEY WANT LEADERSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY THAT CAN TURN AMERICA BACK AROUND, GET THE ECONOMY GROWING AGAIN, GET OUR BORDER SECURE, DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES, PARENTS RIGHTS, STAND FOR LIFE AND HAVE AMERICA STANDING STRONG IN THE WORLD AGAIN. THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> Neil: THIS MUST BE ON THEIR MIND? THE FACT THAT IT’S GALVANIZED DONALD TRUMP IN THE POLLS EVEN BEFORE THIS FORMAL INDICTMENT CAME DOWN. I’M JUST WONDERING HOW IT AFFECTS YOUR OWN RUMORED PRESIDENTIAL RUN. YOU MENTIONED IOWA.

YOU BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES. YOU STOPPED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH CAROLINA. YET THE PRESIDENT REMAINS WITH A BLOW-AWAY LEAD. THAT COULD CHANGE. BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY BUILT ON THAT. AT LEAST IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. HAS THIS PROMPTED YOU TO MAYBE RECONSIDER WHETHER YOU RUN OR NOT? >> NO. I MEAN, THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHERS LIKE THEM HAVE NO BEARING ON OUR DECISION WHATSOEVER. MY WIFE AND I ARE GIVING PRAYERFUL CONSIDERATION FOR RUNNING. WE’RE COMING CLOSE TO MAKING A DECISION ON THAT. OUR FOCUS IS ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT’S NOT ON THE LATEST DRAMA, THE PREOCCUPATION OF THE MEDIA. IT’S ON THE CHALLENGES FACING THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE HURTING. NOBODY KNOWS THE ECONOMY AS WELL AS YOU DO I RAN INTO A WOMAN AT A GAS STATION IN OH — HOBART, INDIANA. THEY SAID THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE

LOCAL FOOD BANK ONCE A WEEK JUST TO KEEP GROCERIES ON THE SHELVES. AND THEY WORK. TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. EVERYTHING THAT JOE BIDEN HAS DONE HAS ALWAYS MADE THINGS WORSE. SO OUR FOCUS IN THIS DECISION IS ON LOOKING AT OUR CAREER IN THE CONGRESS, LOOKING AT OUR CAREER AS GOVERNOR AND FOUR YEARS OF VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHERE WE LEFT AMERICA STRONGER AND MORE PROSPEROUS BEFORE THAT PANDEMIC STRUCK AND SAYING WHETHER WE OUGHT TO TRY TO OFFER OUR VISION AND OUR SERVICES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I PROMISE TO KEEP YOU POSTED. >> Neil: PLEASE DO. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU TALK ABOUT TRYING NOT TO GET INTO THIS DRAMA AND ALL. THERE’S A LOT OF DRAMAS CONCURRENTLY GOING ON CONCERNING INVESTIGATIONS OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT. ONE THAT YOU WERE JUST SORT OF DRAGGED IN TO WHEN A JUDGE FORCED YOU TO TESTIFY IN THIS GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION INTO THE JANUARY 6th ATTACK.

FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW-THROUGH ON THAT? >> WELL, OBVIOUSLY I CAN’T TALK ABOUT IT TO ANY DEGREE YET. ATE MATTER INVOLVING A GRAND JURY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I AM VERY PLEASED THAT THE COURT RECOGNIZED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY THAT THE CONSTITUTION’S SPEECH AND DEBATE PROTECTIONS EXTENDED TO MY ROLE AS VICE PRESIDENT SERVING AS PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE INITIAL SUBPOENA WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE COURT RECOGNIZED FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS DID EXTEND TO ME AS VICE PRESIDENT IN THAT ROLE. I MET TODAY WITH MY ATTORNEYS. WE’RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO SORT OUT THE BEST WAY FORWARD. I’M AT LEAST GRATEFUL THAT THE COURT RECOGNIZED THAT WHAT SOME PEOPLE WERE QUICK TO DO DISMISS IS THE RIGHT POSITION. I STOOD FOR THE CONTUSION, DOING MY DUTY ON JANUARY 6 AND IN THIS INSTANCE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPHOLDED THAT SEPARATION OF POWERS PROVISION IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED

STATES AS WELL. >> Neil: WELL, YOU STUCK TO THAT. IT ALIENATED YOU WITH DONALD TRUMP EVER SINCE. THAT WHOLE GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IS ABOUT WHETHER THE FORMER PRESIDENT TRIED TO OVERTURN IF THE — THE 2020 ELECTION. DO YOU THINK HE DID? >> LOOK, I KNOW I DID MY DUTY THAT DAY. STATES CERTIFY ELECTIONS. THE ONLY ROLE OF THE CONGRESS AS WHICH I WAS PRESIDING AS PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE IS TO OPEN AND COUNT ELECTORAL VOTES OF THE STATES. THERE’S A PROCESS WHERE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS CAN OFFER REJECTIONS. DEMOCRATS ALSO BROUGHT OBJECTIONS. IT’S ORDINARY. IT’S UNDER THE LAW. BUT CLEARLY THE PRESIDENT HAD A LITTLE ADVISERS IN HIS EAR THAT CONVINCED HIM THAT I HAD AUTHORITY TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE PLAINLY, PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS WRONG. I HAD NO RIGHT TO OVERTURN THE

ELECTION THAT DAY AND I’LL ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT WE DID OUR DUTY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. >> Neil: BUT YOU HAVE SINCE SAID THAT HISTORY WILL HOLD DONALD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE OVER THE CAPITOL ATTACK. DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT? >> I DO BELIEVE IT. NOT JUST PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR HIS ACTIONS THAT DAY, BUT ALSO ALL OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT TOOK PLACE. THE PEOPLE THAT ADVISED HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND OBVIOUSLY ANYONE THAT ENGAGED IN VIOLENCE AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OR VANDALISM AT THE CAPITOL WILL BE HELD TO ACCOUNT. I DO BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS ENSURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ALL THE FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH OF US DID AND IN ACCORDANCE TO OUR DUTY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND COMMIT OURSELVES AS A NATION TO ENSURE IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. >> Neil: I SAY IT AND NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS BLAMED YOU FOR THE JANUARY 6 EVENT.

HAD HE SENT THE VOTES BACK TO THE LEGISLATURES, THEY WOULDN’T HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH JANUARY 6. SO IN MANY WAYS, YOU CAN BLAME HIM, REFERRING TO YOU, FOR JANUARY 6. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THAT? >> IT’S THE ARGUMENT ONE OF HIS LAWYERS MADE ON THE VERY DAY OF JANUARY 6. THERE’S NO BASIS IN IT. I HAD NO RIGHT TO REJECT VOTES. I HAD NO RIGHT TO RETURN VOTES TO THE STATE. NO VICE PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY HAD EVER ASSERTED EITHER RIGHT. I KNEW WHAT MY DUTY WAS THAT DAY. WE DID THAT DUTY. I MUST TELL YOU, WHILE THE PRESIDENT AND I FOUND A WAY TO FINISH OUR WORK BY JANUARY 20th AND PARTED AMICABLY, WHEN HE RETURNED TO THAT KIND OF RHETORIC, WE HAVE JUST GONE OUR SEPARATE WAY, NEIL. I HAVEN’T SPOKEN TO THE PRESIDENT — >> Neil: WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU TALKED OR COMMUNICATED? >> I HAVEN’T SPOKEN TO HIM ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

MY FOCUS HAS BEEN ON MY FAMILY, THREE NEW GRANDDAUGHTERS THAT CAME ALONG ON OUR KIDS, TWO OF THEM WHOSE FAMILY SERVE IN THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES AND WORKING HARD TO HELP ELECT REPUBLICANS IN THE MID-TERMS AND TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY SUPPORTING THE CONSERVATIVE CAUSE. THAT’S WHERE WE’LL REMAIN FOCUSED. >> Neil: IT’S BEEN MORE THAN TWO YEARS SINCE YOU CHATTED WITH HIM? >> THAT’S EXACTLY — WE HAVEN’T SPOKEN SINCE KAREN AND I MOVED BACK TO THE FIVE ACRES A AND A POND IN THE STATE OF INDIANA. I’M FOCUSED FORWARD THOUGH. I MUST TELL YOU, NEIL, THIS COUNTRY IS IN A LOT OF TROUBLE. PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS FAILED AMERICA AT HOME AND ABROAD. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING THE PRICE. THE WORLD GROWS MORE DANGEROUS AS YOU RECOUNT ON THIS BROADCAST REGULARLY EVERY DAY. NOW MORE THAN EVER I THINK EVERYONE OF US UNDERSTANDS HOW TO MAKE AMERICA STRONG AND PROSPEROUS AND SECURE OUR LIBERTIES AND VALUES.

>> Neil: IF I CAN FINALLY TO TIE TOGETHER — YOU MENTIONED THE CASE OF ALVIN BRAGG AND HIS 34 COUNT INDICTMENT, WHATEVER BECOMES OF THESE MULTIPLE COUNTS AND DETAILS, WHAT THEY ARE, WHO THEY INVOLVE. THERE ARE AS I SAID ALL OF THESE OTHER INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON CONCURRENTLY. DOWN MENTION JANUARY 6 WHEN YOU GET INTO THE GEORGIA COUNT, WHETHER HE WAS TRYING TO INFLUENCE THAT, THE CLASS NEED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT ISSUE HERE. A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL INDICTMENTS BEYOND THESE THAT COULD COME HIS WAY. THEN WHAT? IS HE AND DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE DAMAGED GOODS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? >> WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT’S A LONG WAY BETWEEN ACCUSATIONS AND INVESTIGATIONS AND EVEN INDICTMENTS. >> Neil: FAIR ENOUGH. >> TO CONVICTIONS. I WOULDN’T WANT TO SPECULATE ON THE IMPACT OF THOSE THINGS. I DO — I KNOW THE PRESIDENT WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP CAN TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF.

I’M SURE HE WILL DEFEND HIS INTEREST — >> Neil: IF YOU WERE TO RUN AGAINST HIM, MR. VICE PRESIDENT, YOU WOULDN’T MENTION THESE CONCURRENT INVESTIGATIONS ESPECIALLY IF THEY’RE GOING ON? THEY ARE ISSUES HERE. >> YOU KNOW, THAT’S — FROM MY STAMPED POINT, IF I WERE TO ENTER THE RACE, I’D BE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR MILITARY, TO STAND TALL IN THE WORLD AGAIN TO MEET AMERICA’S OBLIGATIONS AS LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD. I’D BE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU PURSUE POLICIES TO GET THIS ECONOMY GOING AGAIN AND HOW WE BRING COMMON SENSE AND COMPASSIONATE REFORMS TO ENTITLEMENTS TO AVOID THE NATIONAL DEBT CREDIT THAT IS FACING FUTURE GENERATIONS OF MILES PER HOURS. I’D BE CHAMPIONING THE CAUSE OF LIFE, DEFENDING AMERICAN LIBERTIES AND ON MANY OF THOSE ISSUES, THE PRESIDENT AND I HAVE DIFFERENTS OF OPINION AS I DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY BE RUNNING AS WELL. IF I GET IN THE RACE, I’LL BE FOCUSING ON THE CHOICE THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE AND NOT THE LATEST DRAMA COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON D.C. >> Neil: YOU HAVE SAID I BELIEVE, SIR THAT YOU PLAN TO SUPPORT WHOEVER THE ULTIMATE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IS FOR PRESIDENT. DONALD TRUMP HAS NOT INDICATED. A COUPLE OTHERS OPEN ON THAT SUBJECT. DO YOU STILL STAND BY THAT? ASSUMING THAT DONALD TRUMP COULD BE YOUR NOMINEE AND YOU SUPPORT HIM, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE WOULDN’T RETURN THE FAVOR? LET’S SAY IF IT WERE YOU. >> WELL, NEIL, I WILL TELL YOU, MY WIFE AND I ARE GOING THROUGH OUR SENSE OF CALLING WHETHER WE ENTER THE RACE. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO MY FORMER RUNNING MATE, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT WE’LL HAVE BETTER CHOICES BY THE FALL OF 2024. LOOK, I DON’T THINK ANYBODY COULD HAVE DEFEATED HILLARY CLINTON IN 2016 OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP. BUT I THINK DIFFERENT TIMES CALL FOR DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP. AS I TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY, I’VE HEAR PEOPLE TELLING ME TWO

THINGS. NUMBER 1, WE GOT TO GET BACK TO THE POLICIES OF THE TRUMP-PENCE ADMINISTRATION. UNTIL THAT PANDEMIC LEFT AMERICA STRONGER, MORE PROSPEROUS THAN ANY TIME IN MY LIFETIME, IN THE SAME BREATH, NEIL,PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO A LEVEL OF CIVILITY AND RESPECT IN OUR PUBLIC DEBATE THAT USED TO BE THE NORM NOT JUST TOO LONG AGO. YOU LOOK AT THE MAJOR CHALLENGES THAT WE’RE FACING AFTER THE FAILED POLICIES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THE ADVANCES OF THE RADICAL LEFT. WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER IN POLITICS THE WAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEAL WITH EACH OTHER EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK THERE’S A DESIRE FOR NEW LEADERSHIP, A NEW DIRECTION ANDTHAT ALSO MEANS A NEW TONE IN POLITICS. IF WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, I PROMISE YOU, AS I SAID, I’LL KEEP YOU POSTED. >> Martha: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, SIR. ARE YOU SAYING IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE IF REPUBLICANS ENDED UP NOMINATING DONALD TRUMP AGAIN?

>> NEIL, IT’S — WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS I THINK WE’LL HAVE BETTER CHOICES. I HONESTLY THINK REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS ARE GOING TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT ALL OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT STEP FORWARD IN THE FIELD. THEY’RE GOING TO GIVE US A STANDARD BEARER WHO WILL MEADE THIS MOMENT IN THE LIFE OF OUR NATION AND RESTORE AMERICAN STRENGTH AT HOME AND ABROAD AND DEAL WITH THE LONG-TERM INTRACTABLE ISSUES THAT ARE FACING OUR COUNTRY, WHETHER IT’S THE CRISIS AT OUR BORDER, WHETHER IT’S A DEBT CRISIS THAT THREATENS THE VITALITY OF OUR COUNTRY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. I’M CONFIDENT VOTERS WILL CHOOSE WISELY. >> Neil: I’D LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH A PERSONAL QUESTION HERE. YOU ARE VERY LOYAL TO DONALD TRUMP THROUGHOUT HIS PRESIDENCY. A GREAT DEAL OF MANY POLICY SUCCESSES TO YOUR POINT. THEN YOU STUCK TO YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL GUNS, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE AND DID WHAT YOU DID ON JANUARY 6 TO CERTIFIED THE ELECTION OF JOE BIDEN AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

THAT FOREVER EARNED YOU THE PRESIDENT’S WRATH AND A LOT OF HIS SUPPORTERS THAT TO THIS DAY HATE YOU FOR THAT DECISION. I’M JUST WONDERING NOW AS YOU GO BACK AND LOOK BACK AT THAT AND THE FOUR YEARS YOU DEVOTED TO THE PRESIDENT AND THE COUNTRY AND HEARING WHAT HE HAS SAID OF YOU SINCE AND WHAT HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE SAID OF YOU SINCE, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> WELL, THANKS FOR POINTING OUT. I WAS ALWAYS LOYAL TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. NOT JUST MY PRESIDENT. HE WAS MY FRIEND. WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER TO PASS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE SINCE THE DAYS OF RONALD REAGAN. WE CUT TAXES, ROLLED BACK REGULATION, BECAME ENERGY DEPENDENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 75 YEARS. REDUCED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATIONS AND APINTED THREE JUSTICES TO THE SUPREME COURT AND GAVE US A NEW BEGINNING FOR LIFE. I’M PROUD OF THAT RECORD. I’M MUST TELL YOU THAT GOING FORWARD AS I’VE TRAVELED AROUND

THE COUNTRY THE LAST TWO YEARS, I’VE BEEN DEEPLY MOVED AT HOW MANY MANY AMERICANS HAVE MADE A POINT TO COME UP TO ME AND EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR THE RECORD, BUT ALSO APPRECIATION FOR THE TOUGH STANDS THAT WE’VE TAKEN. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT OUR FAITH IN GOD AND OUR FAMILY AND I ALSO HAVE GREAT FAITH IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SHOULD WE STEP FORWARD AND OFFER OUR SERVES AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT, I’M CONFIDENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF OUR RECORD, LOOK AT OUR CONVICTIONS AND CHOOSE ACCORDINGLY THE BEST PERSON TO HELP LEAD OUR PARTY AND LEAD OUR